I thought I would share this article from "Let Us Reason Ministries" a sound Christian biblical apologetic, pre-millennial website. In taking a step back and reflecting on what the Bible says about Dreams/Visions and in using our discernment especially in these final hours of our Lord's Return. I had to do this for my own spiritual health and to quiet down the red flags and bells and whistles that were sounding off in my spirit. I have always asked the Lord for the truth and did not want to be deceived by anyone's words or be led astray from the True Word of God. There have been times that I have but the Lord always brings me back and with greater fervor for His Word. Discernment is so important in our Christian Life, without it we will surely fall by the wayside. This is a 2 part article and I pray that you would take the time to read it in its entirety, it is sound doctrine and it is up to us to either except it or reject it, it is our choice. God Bless
Great article, Morningstar. I give it 5 stars and I love how he backs everything up with Scripture. Thanks for posting this. I have often wondered how people know if something is from God as in a dream or vision. I, personally don't have them but in all cases, I know that we are to make sure it aligns with the Word and we are to "test the spirits". I've seen too many that don't align with the Word or there are red flags all over the place. Also, so many conflict to the point where I don't even bother to read them any anymore. This has been bothering me for quite some time.
This was extremely informative and I really like the way he explains it all so that it's so easy to understand.
I can't wait to read part 2....heading there now. Very timely article for me. Thanks again.
There's probably as many opinions on this contentious topic as there are denominations! :)
I bet you're right, GIL. I liked it though because he stuck to Scripture and kept Scripture in context and I rest in knowing that Scripture is fact and not opinion. I'm always testing everything.
Thank you for posting this. I agree with his assessment completely.
Discernment is always wise ~~ yet, I can't deny how Muslims who have no Bible have experienced 'seeing' Jesus, and plucked out of satan's trap into the Light of Salvation ~~
"Does God still give visions to people today? I believe HE does, God changes not ~~ we've a God who can do all things utterly able ~~~~
Good thing we have the O.T. and the N.T. reading God speaking to His own through visions.
look @ Joseph born of Jacob, and then the husband of Mary; Solomon; Isaiah; Ezekiel; Daniel; and so was given to the N.T. saints; i.e., Peter; and Paul.
I'm trusting Joel's prophesy is for today ~~too, Peter confirmed it in the Book of Acts . .
God seems to be using visions and dreams increasingly, ~~ again, what about the places where the good news wasn't given them through the Bible, but was revealed to souls by visions and dreams?
I sure believe our God has not ceased giving visions and dreams as He offered the first generation
And not only is discernment wise, it is essential. I have always learned through various studies and been taught that Joel's prophecy was for 'the last days', meaning those in Israel who will be a remnant. In other words, during the first half of Tribulation and after the Church is taken away.
Here's an excerpt from Jack Kelley's study on Joel Speaks Again(part 2)
Thank you, Morningstar! That was excellent! This has been on my heart for some time, so this is very timely for me! The bottom line is that we must align everything with Scripture. I think the author really nails it when he said that oftentimes these experiential things are held up higher than Scripture--that we, as Christians, live by faith and not sight. One very sobering thing he said, which really hit me, was that with some Christians continually praying to receive dreams and visions, that the enemy will gladly supply them. Satan CAN and DOES give dreams and visions. We must always test everything with Scripture. And it goes without saying, TEST THE SPIRITS! Some Christians believe everything they are "given" comes from the Lord, without question! The enemy is well-aware of this! Test the Spirits! Even if it "sounds" right and is a "good" message that doesn't sound off alarms, TEST the Spirits! The enemy is crafty, intelligent, disarming (he won't have fangs, horns, or a red cape), skillful, and likely very appealing.
With all this end-times excitement, and as watching becomes more and more intense, we just really need to be on our guard.
I have loved ones that claim to receive dreams and visions or "Words from the Lord", and there is often a specific situation or date attached to it. These things have yet come to pass, though the dates have come and gone, and these dear ones STILL think they are from the Lord! In fact my BIL listens to a certain internet ministry where the host talks about visits to Heaven and being directly in the THRONE ROOM with Jesus. This "Jesus" tells him of things that are going to happen and gives a time-frame. One time "Jesus" told him that "100 per cent this will happen." and it didn't. My BIL STILL listens to this guy! My husband told him, after listening to said program, that if this doesn't come to pass, then he is a FALSE PROPHET who is listening to deceiving spirits, and that should be very concerning. Sadly, my BIL tried to make excuses for him, after the date came and went, and *sigh* no Rapture, as that Jesus had promised. We are still waiting for this Tsunami that was supposed to hit California over a year ago. You know, that the Lord showed him--and gave dates for. He excuses this by saying prayers from Christians stopped this from happening for now. Like the author of this article states, they always fall back on that when their prediction comes to nothing. As he also asked, where in the Bible does it say that we are to pray to STOP prophecy? Can we stop prophecy from GOD from happening? Of course not.
I don't want to fall for any deceiving spirits or even give them my ear to tickle, so I am very wary of these things, though they are so very enticing! With the internet and Youtube, this is just way to easy for the enemy. As Becka said on another thread, this is where the enemy has a heyday! He knows Scripture inside and out, forward and backward. He will use people we love, who have departed, he will even use children! Put nothing past him. He isn't called the "Father of Lies" for nothing. We must always be Bereans. And always ALWAYS be wearing the full Armor of God.
Shellyanne I agree, There seems to be in influx of messages from Prophets & Prophetesses especially now in these final hours, that we need to exhort one another to seek discernment before we jump on the bandwagon and not let Satan get a stronghold in our Christian life. Dreams and Visions I believe some are from the Lord, but I believe they are for that individuals edification and surely must be checked against Scripture. Here is wise council by Jack Kelly from Gracethrufaith of what seems to be infecting the church.
Well, that's it for me. I'll be posting no more dreams! I don't want to be accused of making things up or being false.
Please don't let the opinions of some stop you from posting any dream you think may be from the Lord.
Everyone has opinions. As I pointed out earlier there's probably as many opinions on this topic as there are denominations, just as there are numerous opinions ( all providing Scripture to back up their position) on if there is a pre-trib,pre-wrath, post-trib rapture, a chronological view of Revelation or multifaceted cycles,etc.
The truth is we all have flaws and see through a glass darkly. Some will say that dreams & visions are manifestations of the gift of the Holy Spirit and still are in evidence today. Some say they are not. Someone above mention how there seems to be more so-called prophets today-perhaps the reason this appears so is that by having the Internet more people are able to
post words,dreams, visions and prophecy. Does that really mean more, or an increased ability for people to communicate them to others, or an increased boldness to share? Or perhaps the reason is that Father is calling more people to be watchmen and is revealing more to His people.
In all things, be it listening to a preacher in a church, reading a word or impression someone posts, a dream or a vision, even the Word of God itself, one should pray about it and ask the Holy Spirit for discernment and wisdom.
Thank you. I appreciate what you said and for taking the time to say it.