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Valdimir Putin's Letter to Americans

Not sure if anyone posted this is or not yet, forgive me if so.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?_r=0

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Remarkable! I'm speechless. It's hard to make much of it. My bias is seeing NWO (UN sovereignty) written all over it, but I'm probably badly warped in my perception of what is real too.

I did smell a bold lie: Putin's trust in O is growing???? If that's so, there's really something rotten going on. Something like "Wow! O really will jump over a cliff to further the NWO cause!"

Thanks, RUA.

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MWS,

I was absolutely speechless as well, I didn't know what to write when I posted it, so I made no comment.

The things that struck me were his words; "I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday". I'm not sure why it stood out for me but it did.

The other thing was his last line, of course.

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I see a ME peace treaty being brokered soon that will include all the nations around Israel. I also see some jihad militaristic group sparking a war by striking Israel to stop this peace treaty. Israel won't stand by and forgive so easily if they are hit with chemical weapons. She will strike back hard which will cascade into the regional war we see in Psalms 83. That war will end when the AC steps in to confirm this peace treaty about to be brokered.

Anyway that's a possible scenario I see playing out.

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Peter, never thought of that, wow!

You know, I re-read his letter and he did mention Israel being threatened. He said: "Reports that militants are preparing another attack — this time against Israel — cannot be ignored".

Hmmm.

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It seems VERY VERY strange to me for Putin to address the American people. Almost surreal. O can't be happy about that. From his stand point I could see him taking this as saying - 'You're not leading your people so I will.' Has this ever been done before?

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While I urge caution and am trying to read between the lines , over all, it is one heck of a good letter...if we can believe it literally. It has to be a first. Does anyone else remember a letter from a Russian President to the American people and leaders, themselves?

Past history and knowledge of prophecy color what we're reading here. But I do have to give Putin credit for trying to calm stormy waters. The main point being to "urge caution in going forward" which are wise words. It's the trust factor, of course, that bothers us. We're very aware of Russia's role in the near future and what she has her eye on...whether Putin is aware yet himself or not.

I do question as mentioned already here about Putin and Obama working together congenially. Recent photos haven't indicated congeniality but distaste of one another. Yes, the warning to Israel is to be noted as well. He's right on that. Wondering what he knows that way. But we all suspect anyway not knowing of real plans. It is refreshing though to see one willing to reach out at this point to the other claiming to desire to work together. If only we could believe this to be genuine and truth.

The UN has been disappointing as I mentioned previously on a past thread---where is the UN? Why do we need to intercede in a civil war? This is the UN's business. What the UN police force is to take care of. It smells like a trap for us being baited. Get all of our armed forces involved all over the world and leave us like sitting ducks to be attacked with no ability to protect ourselves. This then is followed by attacking our vets so they could never organize to fight back if our home land is attacked. The way returning vets have been treated is disgraceful. They are our heroes. Yet, treated like they're the enemy.

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Take it easy, folks. This is a parody letter, not something actually written by Putin.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/putinletter.asp

Although I take some of what snopes has to offer with skepticism, this one is correct. World leaders do not write letters of this tone to other nations, especially one that refers to Assad as "my S.O.B." This is a political opinion piece written as if coming from Putin to make a point.

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David, I believe that is a different letter published by Breibart news, the one on this link is the NY Times letter.

I could be wrong but I believe they are two different pieces.

What jumped out at me in your post was the "SOB" in the letter, there was no SOB in the one included on this link from the NY Times, so I did some checking and one is parody and this one is supposedly real.

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Oops. My mistake. I had seen so many comments on that other piece of nonsense that I jumped the gun.

So, after reading the original one at the link, Putin sounds rather reasonable. That's not to say I'd trust him or any world leader. I have no doubt that he has his own agenda and interests in the region.

We don't need to be getting involved in Syria's civil war. There is nothing to gain and much to lose by doing so.

It's really strange to find myself nodding in agreement with Russia's leader and shaking my head in confusion at our own.

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Actually David the snopes article is speaking of a different letter.
This one may possibly be true. It appears that lawmakers believe so.
Thanks for reminding us that not everything we read or hear is true.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=20234550&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dwhat%2Bis%2Ban%2Bop-Ed%26client%3Dsafari%26hl%3Den%26source%3Dlnms%26tbm%3Dnws%26sa%3DX%26ei%3DE-wxUq_SF-WH2AXg9ICQDQ%26ved%3D0CAoQ_AUoAA

Edited to add: I see you figured it out :)

I thought the same thing last night reading the letter. This is pretty strange- I am in more support of the Russian presidents stance on this situation and not the US president. I just don't know what to make of this.
I laughed when I read of US politicians being upset with Putin telling us what the US should do. The US always tells the world what they should do. We are the biggest bully on the planet.

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Well, that's interesting. Putin saw an opportunity to diss O knowing that people are war-weary nowadays, and he went for it.

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Gosh it all sounds pretty benign except for the fourth paragraph where he mentions the Iranian nuclear "problem" and leaves out the fact that Russia is feeding this problem by enabling Iran to succeed with their quest for nukes! Some truth mixed in with a big item left out!!

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Just have to add that the US has been and still is exceptional in her service to the world!!

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It's almost impossible today to tell the difference between reality and deception. It is too easy to be confused . Deception has become a great skill in these evil times. So much so it's hard to tell the difference these days. Yes, we must be cautious and question everything these days. We must seek out truth and can't rush into action without it.

Yes, there is deception in this letter, too. It may be trickery. But there's a part of me that says this is a bold, gutsy move if sincere. On the other hand it could be trickery for ulterior motives. I want to believe it's sincere but...

I agree David. The tables have turned. It's so odd to find ourselves agreeing with the Russian President and at odds with our own. We've all here said we need to be cautious going forward. We need to know truth because we wanted to wait for truth to come out on who used these chemical weapons. Everyone promoting their version was so sure they had the truth. But with two different stories, obviously someone had to be wrong. So what is the truth? Unfortunately, it's been very hard to tell which story is the real truth. It wasn't standing up waving a red flag at us. We found the red flag in the "no one really knows" version of the story.

So, yes,then we need to act cautiously. We realized someone was trying to drag the US into this civil war in the Middle East. The whole nation urged caution. We've seen the patterns we don't like of our intervention policies and how they've played out in other countries. Not good at all. Why rush to repeat this pattern when it isn't working?

But one in particular surrounded by a few in important roles wanted to rush in to war but call it anything but war. We've heard all the excuses but weren't falling for the deception being pushed on us. We weren't falling for that trick. When you shoot missiles across someone's bow you can't know for sure what you will hit and destroying another's infrastructure is an act of war. Clever terminology can't hide this fact. We didn't fall for "no boots on the ground". Acts of war lead to upgrading aggression . No one in their right mind could guarantee escalation wouldn't happen. There are no guarantees in war scenarios. The one thing that seemed unmentioned in all this is the countries supporting Syria and how they would react. That's one heck of a missing of a major piece of the puzzle. I've never heard a word of what to do if they defended Syria. You can't overlook them and claim war won't happen? That would be a fool's errand. Of course Syrian supporters are of a major consideration! Now here's one of them making an offer. It can't be just dismissed and tossed aside. We need at the very least to take a good look at it and listen; really consider...pray about it.

To urge caution is a wise move. Inviting working together is commendable. No one knows or can guarantee it would work. But neither can anyone guarantee The US President's plan will work either. The world can't condone the use of chemical weapons. It is necessary to remove and destroy these weapons. The problem is no country can trust the other country or their alliances. This is where the UN should come into play. With multiple countries from both sides perhaps at least some of these weapons could be destroyed so there aren't so many out there floating around. There are no guarantees but don't we at least have to take the chance and try? Yes, we are in real time seeing the New World order forming and prophecy coming true. I just pray it's not the US beginning WW III. I keep coming back to , "Don't we at least have to try to de-escalate things without acts of war?" Okay, maybe it doesn't work. But we tried. We don't have a better plan in place. No plan at all, in fact. So I for one want to hear the proposal and consider it.

The world won't be any safer but at least some of the mad men's war toys are destroyed and someone tried to stop the madness of annilating us all. Right now we have all these ships in close quarters off the coast of Syria. All it takes is one error, one hair- trigger slip to start a real life Battleship game and WW III begins. We're bidding time for cooler heads to reign. We know it's a losing battle in the end because we know prophecy. But maybe we could keep the US out a little longer and confine this to the Middle East while attempting to come up with an alternative, better plan.

Pray for the peace of Israel. Pray for her and the Hebrew people. Pray we don't abandon Israel. If she is attacked now then we'll have to help defend her. In any case, shooting over Syria's bow won't stop attacks on Israel. May God help us all.

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The Russians also delayed going to their meeting with Kerry, just to emphasis who has the power.

"MOSCOW - Syria will fulfill an initiative to hand over its chemical weapons only when the United States stops threatening to strike Syria, RIA news agency quoted President Bashar Assad as saying in a television interview.

Assad also said that Damascus will begin handing over information on its chemical weapons stockpiles one month after it joins a anti-chemical weapons convention.

"When we see the United States really wants stability in our region and stops threatening, striving to attack, and also ceases arms deliveries to terrorists, then we will believe that the necessary processes can be finalized," he was quoted as saying in an interview with Russian state television."
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http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Syria-ready-to-hand-over-chemical-weapons-if-US-drop-threats-326007

What happens when the "leader of the free world" becomes wishy washy and indecisive? Others will make the rules for him to follow.

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So true Thom. I'm sure Obama is hopping mad. It will be interesting to see his response. What a mess we're in.

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Strategically, Putin has Obama over a barrel. It hardly matters from that angle who's being more truthful. Having made an offer for Assad to turn over the chemical weapons, we are now obligated to play the waiting game. The momentum is no longer with us. If we go ahead and fire missiles, that makes us appear to be the aggressors. Likewise, doing nothing makes us appear weak and unreliable. No wonder Putin wants to rub it in.

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Interesting article that goes along with this thread.

For information and discussion purposes only:

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/57856

Obama’s and Putin’s Sour Take on America One and the Same

That telltale fishy smell comes with Russia President Vladimir Putin’s September 11 lecture to Americans, and the reek is not one that comes solely from his close association with fish wrap they call the New York Times.



Putin’s biggest shill on the day most Americans were remembering the dead of September 11, 2001 and victims of the 2012 Benghazi terrorist attack was for the United Nations.

“The United Nations’ founders understood that decisions affecting war and peace should happen only by consensus, and with America’s consent the veto by Security Council permanent members was enshrined in the United Nations Charter.

“No one wants the United Nations to suffer the fate of the League of Nations, which collapsed because it lacked real leverage. This is possible if influential countries bypass the United Nations and take military action without Security Council authorization,” Putin wrote in yesterday’s NYT op-ed.

Millions of ordinary folk are onto the long-standing, mealy-mouthed, do-nothing role of the UN when saving human lives really matters, like in Rwanda for instance. Some would like to see the world’s largest bureaucracy deceitfully touted as a fuzzy, warm blanket, transferred from Lower Manhattan and relocated to a nation like Saudi Arabia, the Congo or Russia.



Putin, who seems to have found God and “the path of civilized diplomatic and political settlement” right around the same time, echoes President Barack Obama, Code Pink and the “America-can’t-do-anything-right” anti-war crowd:


“It’s alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling conditions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us.”

Millions more see America as a beckoning beacon of hope, in spite of the propaganda spewed by envious world leaders.

It should be more alarming that Putin got to speak to Americans right at their kitchen tables and on their porches, courtesy of the New York Times right on the day when almost 3,000 innocents were being remembered on the 12th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Try doing the same thing in Russia.

Putin’s statement, “My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust” is the diametric opposite of millions of Americans who don’t trust Obama and seek to rescue their country from his obsessive “Fundamental Transformation of America” before it’s too late.

Given the rah-rah Putin-to-the-rescue comments that follow his op-ed, the freedom and liberty of the West is in big trouble because the lemmings, who buy into Putin’s sincerity will buy into most anything.

Having “carefully studied” Obama’s address to Americans on Tuesday, Putin disagrees with the case he made on American exceptionalism when he stated that the United States’ policy is ‘what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional’ before going on to mock: “It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation.”

Obama’s final acknowledgement to American exceptionalism on Tuesday was his first.

Like Putin, he normally insults the notion, and has done so lo these past four and a half years, traveling the world to insult the country that pays his salary.

Has anyone noticed how much alike Putin and Obama sound when pontificating about the failings of America?

When it comes to the United States, global elitists Putin and Obama are the head and tail of the same ideology: one best described as the inevitable march of socialism toward totalitarianism.

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This seems to be a no win situation for us to help either side in Syria. However, I do not think that is our real focus. I think that just like Russia's real motive is to protect their own interests, Including their friend Iran, that is threatening to destroy Israel. I think that our motive is to protect Israel. We are the good guys here as long as we defend Israel in my opinion. I believe that is our main focus, Israel's security.

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Putin is playing chess...he just made Oblunder his pawn.

My eyes are on Israel as I believe they are doing/preparing for something...too much defensive moves, testing of missle systems that would have not been needed with next door Syria.

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Great thoughts everyone. Important points are being made. I hadn't even thought of this being done on 9/11. That's why it's so important we can get everyone's great input.

It truly is a no- win situation. The Middle East does seem to have all the players in place now. Judge Jeannine in the thread on Fox News really summarizes all that's going on well in the US. Hidden agendas are all over the place. It does seem that Israel is the key piece to this impossible puzzle. I pray she does have something big planned.

Putin is a master chess player. It will be interesting to see Obama's next move. This may be the part where we will want to cover our eyes with our fingers and barely peak out.

Have we heard yet of any response to Putin's message from the White House? I can only imagine the scene and discussions there. Praying for our soldiers, all our military personnel. Whatever move we make now will most likely be for naught but the glove has been laid down and silence and ignoring this move isn't an option. Then again, maybe ignoring this message would be better than a response. Expecting a dual next if the glove is picked up.

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From the article I posted above:

When it comes to the United States, global elitists Putin and Obama are the head and tail of the same ideology: one best described as the inevitable march of socialism toward totalitarianism.


And then, this letter from Putin in the OP is interesting, and led me to remember the pResident's comment from his speech the other night. Remember that he said that America was exceptional? Well, think back to his first campaign. He didn't think we were so exceptional then.

A snippet from an article here, for information and discussion purposes only:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/06/11/kt-mcfarland-obama-american-exceptionalism-military-navy-iwo-jima/

During the 2008 presidental campaign, Barack Obama was asked whether he believed in American exceptionalism. Sure, he said, "just like the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism." In other words, the only people who think there is anything exceptional about America are some naïve, insular Americans.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/06/11/kt-mcfarland-obama-american-exceptionalism-military-navy-iwo-jima/#ixzz2eiCLBUfP


So, I'm finding the outrage from politicians in D.C. about this letter from Putin kind of ironic. Where was all of the outrage when O was saying the same thing?

Still, kind of funny in an ironic kind of way, hearing this stuff from Gog. Who would have ever thunk it, that Gog might just be seen as the leader of the free world....

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Peter_h
I see a ME peace treaty being brokered soon that will include all the nations around Israel. I also see some jihad militaristic group sparking a war by striking Israel to stop this peace treaty. Israel won't stand by and forgive so easily if they are hit with chemical weapons. She will strike back hard which will cascade into the regional war we see in Psalms 83. That war will end when the AC steps in to confirm this peace treaty about to be brokered.

Anyway that's a possible scenario I see playing out.


Wait for it, wait for it -


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NO COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, PRIMARILY ISRAEL, SHOULD HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION - ASSAD

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WOW! After reading each and every post on here, my jaw dropped a little more and a little more (figuratively ).

What went through my mind was a comment made on Fox News this week (sorry can't remember who said it, maybe Ambassador Bolton), it was something along these lines:

...you have a former community organizer up against the former head of the KGB.

It is not really a fair fight when you look at it that way.

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Firstly, Hi RUA! It's nice to see you feeling better and up and about!

Secondly, reading this letter, it occurs to me that Putin may just be a man after God's heart. I have for a while believed that he was and is a true and practicing Christian. His fruit sure appears to be that way (anti-gay campaign/refuses to allow Saudi Arabia to by Russia and turn against Assad...sure he was the had of KGB, I've sinned too, sure he has helped Iran, but we cannot judge him it is not our place as we do not know or understand the workings of God and how do we know who is and who isn't controling Putin?), and he referenced the "Lord" and not just God, that stuck out to me. I have to say that the "rebuking" done in Isaiah 17 definately appears to be comeing FROM Putin. I believe that God is doing the rebuking right now to settle the nations that were roaring and that He is doing it through Putin (and if this is true, it only stands to reason that he is acting on God's behalf as Isaiah 17 tells us that God will rebuke the nations).

Now, with the whole "hook in the jaw" thing, I'm gonna have to say that Putin gets raptured right along with us and that Russia will take a dark turn after that, but for now, I feel like he is a man we can trust and should be praying for as it appears that he is holding things together very well for the Lord at this time. And when he is removed, the world will explode into choas.

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Sparkles:

You wonder if Putin is Christian? I wonder, too, but not in the positive. Why does he support regimes/countries that are anti-Israel, I wonder? Is it because he doesn't not believe or understand that Israel has not been set aside, as some replacement theology folks believe, or is it because this is some cloaked thing from the other side?

I'm not sure, but I watch him, and just about every leader, to be honest, verrrryyyy closely ;-)

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Make's ya wonder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin

When asked whether he believes in God during his interview with Time, he responded saying: "...There are things I believe, which should not in my position, at least, be shared with the public at large for everybody's consumption because that would look like self-advertising or a political striptease."[368]


2Ti 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us


Rom 10:9

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

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Thank you very much Sparkles!

Yah, I hear what you are saying and actually watched a 14minute video of him speaking of his belief, never heard him say Jesus's actual name, just referred to Him as the Lord (which of course He is but found it odd that he didn't actually say His name). Only God knows who are truly His and I hope he is a Christian and we see him in Heaven but his "light" confuses me.

The problem I have with him, as I would with anyone, is his cozy relationship with Iran. For someone to give the means and technology to Iran who only wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, I then have a huge issue with him.

It may just be the old saying of; "my enemy's enemy is my best friend" hence why he supports Iran, I dunno know.

I may be wrong but I believe that this is the first time in history that Russia and Iran have been friends - odd timing and it is under his leadership that it has happened. It is very Biblical and the timing and under his leadership...hmmm.

I am confused about Syria, on one hand, Assad has always protected Christians but on the other, if he did kill as many people as the US says he has then that must stop and he must be held accountable.

I believe that we need to pray for the Christians, I know that the oldest Christian community there are under attack, lead by the rebels and heard that they demanded the Christians convert or be beheaded; that is who is going to run the country if Assad is gone?!?!? That is huge.



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Putin also has the charismatic appeal of the possible anti-christ. His eye is on Israel and he does not disclose his religion. He is in total control and has taken charge of Syria. Hmmmmm.... Don't forget that Russia is a very cruel place to live as well. Very expensive, and Putin just now is showing his "human" side. He has great diplomatic tactics... Hmmmm...

I am so ready for Jesus to
come on the clouds to get us!!!

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I agree with VC. "Putin is a Master Chess Player."

President Obama, I think, thought he already had the power wrapped up and in his pocket, but people were praying, things started not going his way so much. I think he started to feel a little gnawing at his polished veneer. He starts to stutter a lot. Gets caught in a lie. Or two. Sweating a bit now, but thinking he still has enough power makes this decision to strike Syria, Yes, that's the thing to do. I will be applauded for that, back on top. Not so fast. . . Someone dares disagree with me? (By the way, where are Michelle & the kids? We used to see them all of the time.) Back to the President. My allies will rally around me. I'm still on top. What? Just me? Whatever I do I have to look good - save face, which is what Putin's article did. Enough "We're working together." to give the President hope that he will gain some of his credibility back. But then Putin takes "exception" to a play on words, just slides enough in there to let the other guy know who's really boss, and then the cherry on top. That was for us. To plant a seed in our minds of, "Wow, he believes in God. Who knew?" Made you feel a little better about him didn't it? Checkmate.

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Russia practically invented the game of Chess.

I think the prayers of the church (intercessors/prayer warriors) have kept us from being blown off the earth this last week.

Gods restraining hand, so far against Obama doing something utterly foolish. At least for now.

So God used Russia as a big part of that restraining of Obama. Oh yeah, God does work in mysterious ways.

WW3 delayed, at least for now.

Psalm 83 and Isiah 17, Jeremiah 49 wars, on the verge to happening for sure. USA will not play a part in that war, neither will Russia or Iran, the war between Israel, Iran, Russia, Libya, and a few other distant countries from Israel comes later on.


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Such intelligent observations! I really enjoyed this thread (bet you couldn't guess).

I did smell a bold lie: Putin's trust in O is growing???? If that's so, there's really something rotten going on.

MWS: O ye of little faith! That simply means Putin knows he can trust O to do the absolutely most foolish thing in every situation.

I see a ME peace treaty being brokered soon that will include all the nations around Israel. I also see some jihad militaristic group sparking a war by striking Israel to stop this peace treaty. Israel won't stand by and forgive so easily if they are hit with chemical weapons. She will strike back hard which will cascade into the regional war we see in Psalms 83. That war will end when the AC steps in to confirm this peace treaty about to be brokered.

Peter_h: very possible! What interesting times we live in....

He said: "Reports that militants are preparing another attack — this time against Israel — cannot be ignored".

RUA: and this is the man who is Iran's biggest ally!

I do have to give Putin credit for trying to calm stormy waters. The main point being to "urge caution in going forward" which are wise words.

VC: caution in going forward: someone I heard or read recently said Putin has just won himself a big chunk of delay time ... which he could use to do all sorts of things we'd rather he didn't do!

Putin saw an opportunity to diss O ... and he went for it.

Yes, Sammy, and it's a really bad sign when foreign powers diss your leader!

Assad also said that Damascus will begin handing over information on its chemical weapons stockpiles one month after it joins a anti-chemical weapons convention.

TX Thom, it's delay, delay, delay! Meanwhile, Russia is arming Syria and Iran. And what else is happening?

Strategically, Putin has Obama over a barrel. It hardly matters from that angle who's being more truthful. Having made an offer for Assad to turn over the chemical weapons, we are now obligated to play the waiting game. The momentum is no longer with us. If we go ahead and fire missiles, that makes us appear to be the aggressors. Likewise, doing nothing makes us appear weak and unreliable. No wonder Putin wants to rub it in.

David R, unfortunately, yes. And we're all along for the ride.

I believe that is our main focus, Israel's security.

Melissa, O has no love for Israel. He's trying to force them to give up much of their land.

My eyes are on Israel as I believe they are doing/preparing for something.

jfelts8031, they know they're going to be on their own, except for God (and only a few of their leaders believe in Him). But Pastor JD reminds us that Bibi knows the Old Testament prophets.... I wonder what's in Bibi's mind....

Putin is a master chess player. It will be interesting to see Obama's next move.

VC, doubtless O will do something at best, stupid; at worst, disastrous.

Chris N., I heard part of Rush Limbaugh's show today; he said (my paraphrase) American exceptionalism means the Constitution sets up a form of government that allows us an unprecedented amount of freedom. It's not that Americans are better, but that our form of government allows us more freedom than anywhere else in the world.

Wait for it, wait for it ... NO COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, PRIMARILY ISRAEL, SHOULD HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION - ASSAD

Oh, yes.... To paraphrase Animal Farm: All countries are equal, but Israel is less equal than the others.

something along these lines: ...you have a former community organizer up against the former head of the KGB. It is not really a fair fight when you look at it that way.

RUA, unfortunately that hasn't occurred to Obama yet. And I'm not sure it ever will. He has a totally unrealistic view of himself.

Putin may just be a man after God's heart [and] gets raptured right along with us and that Russia will take a dark turn after that, but for now, I feel like he is a man we can trust and should be praying for as it appears that he is holding things together very well for the Lord at this time. And when he is removed, the world will explode into choas.

Shiloh: very interesting! Nobody says Christians are perfect ... or even all on the same side. We should certainly pray for Putin! But I still wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw him (and he knows all those assassin's moves, so I would be dead real quick if I tried).

You wonder if Putin is Christian? I wonder, too, but not in the positive. Why does he support regimes/countries that are anti-Israel?

Miriam, Christians aren't perfect, and the vast majority of us are spectacularly wrong about something, if not several somethings. Is Putin anti-Israel, or is it just that Israel in his way? Can God forgive such blindness?

that is who is going to run the country if Assad is gone?!?!?

RUA, kind of a difficult choice....

Putin also has the charismatic appeal of the possible anti-christ.

Jesus girl, can you see Israel embracing Putin as Messiah?

So God used Russia as a big part of that restraining of Obama. Oh yeah, God does work in mysterious ways.

WW3 delayed, at least for now.

Psalm 83 and Isiah 17, Jeremiah 49 wars, on the verge to happening for sure. USA will not play a part in that war, neither will Russia or Iran, the war between Israel, Iran, Russia, Libya, and a few other distant countries from Israel comes later on.


Leroy: just when we think we can't be surprised!

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I have to admit, I think it's a good letter. I know he had a criminal past, but is it possible Putin is now born again? He is very supportive of Christianity, even in Russia. You can see by his body language he can't stand O, and is unswayed by all the same gender propaganda. he made a ruling to refuse any Russian babies to be adopted by same gender parents. Which caused outrage in Europe, even in holland but he stood his ground. I admire him for that. And. He also called Kerry a liar. True.
I saw him being interviewed at the river Jordan, and in Israel and seemed genuinely moved. I dunno.
Maybe Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu are secret Christians?
Just not allowed to come out publicly?

Maybe it's all a big deception?
And he turns around and becomes the baddie (carpathia?) like in 'Left behind'?

Reading between the lines, I think he is saying your administration is lying and supporting the Islamic extremists. I don't trust them an inch. I need to appeal directly to you, the kids of America to explain our need for world stability, as those in charge are not to be trusted. And could set off ww3.

If I were on a big sinking ship, I would rather have Putin as captain than Barry aka bho.
Confusing times.
I also agree that it's good not to think ourselves more highly than others, (terminally unique). We have to stay humble and servants of our fellow man, and most importantly, God. Jesus himself washed feet when he left, and cooked fish when he came back. It was to show us how to serve one another. Our task as followers of Him.

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Just another thought: we certainly must be really close to the 70th week. All these questions, suspicions, confusions, paradoxes, and uncertainties we RITANs are puzzling over strikes a contrast. We RITANs who probably are an "exceptional" group since we hold truth in very high regard indeed, and who as individuals are spiritually sensitive through clearly loving the Almighty God, reveal by this thread that our diverse confusion itself may be an indicator of the time we are in. Consider the first phrase of Daniel 8:25, which is an end-time context for sure:

"He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power."

According to my Blessed Redeemer, Satan is a liar and the father of lies. When he lies he speaks his native language... Leaders of those principalities and powers, rulers of darkness, and the spiritual forces of evil in heavenly realms spin deceit like fine linen or silver filigree.

I am forever grateful our Father, the Almighty God, enjoys assisting His followers not to walk in darkness and helps them to discern the wiles of the Devil. Almost everyone in the world who actually thinks is scratching his or her own head and asking, "What the h___ is going on here?" Satan clearly has most hapless inhabitants the world right where he wants them.

I feel like it's very nearly time for the Faithful to be dramatically delivered from this lying, putrid, stinking, confusing, destructive evil. I would enjoy being the thread killer here were this particular Friday the 13th to become our departure date. Laudibly lovely luck for lovers of the Lord...

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interesting thread~!

Sometimes we DO feel like Jeremiah, huh, the 'weeping prophet' chosen by God to give witness to the Truth in his time . . thankfully, we have the exalted God Who is powerful, oh, Praise God He is never confused!

Thinking of God's Beloved Prophet Jeremiah ~~~ in his lifetime, surely he felt great discouragement ~~~ how many souls did he see turn to the Lord God? None at that time ~~ God's ways are higher than ours ~~ God is glorified in all He does and is . . , Thankfully the Truth remains, each soul saved in the Son, God knew before He made the world ~~ our Savior God shall lose not ~~

oh, God in this hour we see the falling away as You prepare for Your return ~~ Though the wicked seem to prosper ~~ You are the Sovereign Power, Absolute, Great and Mighty ~~ we remain watchful for Your return, Lord Jesus ever unchanging, Righteous, Holy, Pure, and Good, rich in Mercy and Justice ~~

Matthew Henry's commentary: "but the same we behold in the different characters now, that the Lord's children are conformed to Christ's example, and the children of Satan to their master. . " Matthew Henry's commentary

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Watching FoxNews right now and they are discussing this whole Assad/Chemical Weapons/Russia mess.

The lady being talked to is a analyst and she basically said this: (paraphrase)

We have weeks before Iran gets the S-300's from Russia, which makes them almost invunerable to attack from Israel. So look for a Israel attack on Iran before they aquire these weapons. All of this comes from this chemical attack in Syria that then blossomed out into so many things...including America being a non-factor in anything going on in the Middle East now.

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More great points here. Whew! We all agree it's a mess no matter which direction we come from to examine this situation. So much deception and so many highly questionable motives are involved. Who can out do the other. Every person looking to Jesus as Savior needs to be intervening and petitioning the courts of Heaven now. The world's choices are really non -existent. These super powers are intending to outdo one another. Call bluffs. There is no way out of this mess that saves anyone the future grief coming in this world... Either way the world turns is a snare/trap.

I fully agree, Perian, the cautious route is buying time for both sides to set up things to their own advantage. We've only gained a small window of opportunity in being cautious--a short delay that both sides are using to their advantage. But the horrible truth is that the end result won't be an advantage to anyone. Maybe one will feel like top dog for a brief interlude but that's the only gain. The losses will be staggering for both sides of this evil coin these two world powers want to flip.

We are so blessed to know Truth. We know who is Truth, the Way, the Life. The world's ways all lead to failure, misery,death & destruction. We know WHO (Hint to those reading over our shoulders: it's not Putin or Obama!) is the answer but the world isn't listening and never will. The world has created this dilemma that entraps themselves. They do have another choice--one each man needs to make for himself. This is the last thing we can pray --for the world we will leave behind soon...that their eyes may be opened to truth and making the right decision that will make ALL the difference in the world for individuals.

God will leave them to create their own destiny in the end. But for the wise there is the choice of choosing Christ to Redeem them and to be their Savior. Let's get to our prayer closets and get into deep prayer for the world's citizens to wake up and receive Jesus as Lord of their lives. Pray for our Christian Brothers and Sisters in Syria, Egypt..all Middle Eastern countries as well as Israel herself and the world. They need basic needs met, provision, safety....peace! We pray for last minute souls for the Kingdom of God in this interval of delay we've been given.

Perhaps this interval is meant for us to fill to accomplish a monumental task for those with ears to listen and eyes to see! If frightened people will listen better, be more open to the Good News, then who knows what the results can be. We don't have worldly answers for the nations lining up against them but we have THE ANSWER that will take them out of the world's evil plotting; the eternal answer where it doesn't matter which man has the most power and control. Who can out deceive the another or who has the best or largest military force and weapons. At the moment we have the power the world longs for--let's use it to glorify God Almighty! We can make a difference in Heavenly realms that affect outcome on earth! Let's use this time we've been given wisely. We were born to this generation for such a time as this. Now is the time to use this interval like never before. Prayer can change things and our God is a big God. There's nothing He can't do. Pray each person on the planet hears from Jesus personally and gets eyes opened wide to humbly receive Christ's call on his/her life. This interval isn't incidental. It must be for a reason! But maybe our prayers didn't just cause a delay between super powers to gain cooler heads to reign but for us to step up and seriously intervene to make a Kingdom difference. There's nothing to lose and everything to gain. There's reason we are still here and called Ambassadors for Christ.

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Re: Valdimir Putin's Letter to Americans

Read it....Don't buy it!!..This coming from an ex KGB? But it's a good example of the speeches the AC will be making. We are in the age of deceit and at this stage of the end times I expect deceit to flourish.

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