A couple of songs from the incomparable Keith Green - good memories for those of us who listened to him in the 70's before he died - and an introduction of him to those who never got to be blessed by him.

Wow, Diane, is this a blast from the past or what???
Boy, does this bring back memories! (Whoops, I'm giving out my age, lol!!!)

Thanks for sharing!

P.S. When are you going to give us our personality anaylsis? (I see you as a "supporter" as well as "controller"!)

LOL, I am writing it now - since I'm not tired enough for bed yet! May take awhile though...

and you have me pegged just right! I sit pretty squarely between the two!! Good job!

Yes, I just loved Keith Green back in the day, and love listening to his music again. He was the REAL DEAL!

Oh, yeah, Diane, I can clearly see both personality traits in you! And I just saw your other thread where you saw me as a supporter, and you were right on the mark yourself!!

Actually, personality anaylsis is right up my alley. I've taken several psych classes, and I just love it!

Love Keith. Can't wait to see him when we get there. I saw Melody at a conference last year... that's one incredible woman to keep going & going all of these years.

Diane I have been thinking about you and was so glad to see you posting this AM!! I wanted to tell you how much I admired your work with the unwed gals! That is something that I always wanted to do as I found my self in that spot twice!!

Anyway I also loved Keith Green. A friend gave me her old cassettes when CD's first came out and this was after his death. That was the first time I had heard of him and I loved his music. One of my favorite lines of his was "The church is asleep in the light". Will have to get a CD to listen to him again!

Melissa, thank you so much for your kind words! I am sorry to hear you found yourself in the same spot as those girls. I know God would love to use you to help other girls in that situation! You might want to ask your local pregnancy center about it if you have one. Ours has lots of different ways to volunteer. I like the in office counseling, but some women sign up to answer the 24 hour help line from home which is great for moms with small kids. They take a block of time and just be available from home to talk to any girls in crisis that call in. Anyway, I know these girls are close to God's heart!

Yes, Keith is so awesome! I put a Keith Green Live cd on my Christmas list this year and got it!! It has all his greatest songs on it with a live audience. I like the live music the best!

Here's a message from Keith talking about heaven:

Will You Be Bored In Heaven?
by Keith Green

"But to this one I will look, to him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My Word." -Isaiah 66:2 NASB

Who today trembles at the Word of God? It seems to me that there are but few who really live with a passion for God - especially a passion just to be with Him. Today there is such a noise coming up before the throne of the Most High - the clamor of so - called praise, singing, and joyful shouting. But I wonder if the same people who love to sing and shout, loudly exclaiming the praises of God, really have such an intense glory in their secret life with the Lord. When the meeting's over and there's no one there to listen except the only One who matters, do you still have that same passionate joy in your spirit, just to be alone with the Living God?

How Are You Ever Going To Enjoy Heaven?

The Lord made me realize recently that if I do not absolutely relish His company now, desiring to be with Him more than anyone in the whole world, then I would not really be comfortable in heaven at all - for it is there that we will spend all eternity in the company of the Holy One who made us.

I had always thought that even though now I might not desire with all my heart to be in the conscious presence of God, that somehow, mysteriously, I would not have that problem after I die. I had believed that salvation from a rotten devotional life would only finally come with death (and then naturally heaven!), but as a man of God said centuries ago, "There is no sanctification in the grave!" (See Heb. 9:27)

How many of us believe that even though we have some evil and sin in our hearts now, heaven will take care of all that? Why do we put our hope in some future redemption when God says, "Behold, now is the acceptable time, behold, now is the day of salvation!" (II Cor. 6:2 NASB) Do you think that even though you allow yourself pride and selfishness here, once you get to heaven everything will be all set because "it's impossible to sin in heaven"? Aren't you forgetting that Satan let pride, selfishness, and deceit rule his life, even though he had lived in heaven since the day he was first made! It must be seen that heaven can't take away our sins, only Jesus can take away our sins and the power of sin over our life!

The Gates Of Holiness

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that God will allow sin in heaven. On the contrary, He has prepared hell as the final dumping site for the devil - and all the sin in the universe! God will only allow what is holy to enter through the gates. (Rev. 21:27) That is why I implore you to see that it's not heaven that will finally purify us... only the blood of Jesus can cleanse and purify us, and that must take place here and now. For without holiness, "no one shall see the Lord." (Heb. 12:14 KJV)

If your heart takes more pleasure in reading novels, or watching TV, or going to the movies, or talking to friends, rather than just sitting alone with God and embracing Him, sharing His cares and His burdens, weeping and rejoicing with Him, then how are you going to handle forever and ever in His presence with no TV, movies, or singles' retreats? You'd be bored to tears in heaven, if you're not ecstatic about God now!

How could God invite you to heaven, where the most exciting thing to do all day is gaze upon His glorious face, if you're not in heaven right here on earth when you're alone with Him? Do you think that after you die, suddenly you'll be in heaven and "presto!" all at once you're not going to like worldly things anymore? All of a sudden you'll love more than anything else just to hang out with God, when you couldn't stand being alone with Him even 20 minutes a day?

The Excitement Of Death

"For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain .... I do not know which to choose, but I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better; yet to remain on in the flesh is more necessary for your sake. And convinced of this, I know that I shall remain and continue with you all for your progress and joy in the faith . . " Phil. 1:21-25 NASB

What an amazing passage this is. But then again, what an amazing man Paul was! He speaks here as if he could snap his fingers and be in heaven any time he chose to leave the planet. He says that he'd really rather depart this life and be with Christ in heaven, but he was willing to stay if he really had to!

How different his attitude toward death is than ours. When we think of dying, many times it still holds the same dread for us as it does for unbelievers. Even worse, there are many believers who do not wish to "depart and be with Christ" any time too soon. When they think of going to be with the Lord, they hope it will be a long, long time in the future - in fact, going to heaven now would interrupt many of our plans (even "Christian" ones), cutting short a "long, productive life."

Be honest, would you be thrilled for the Lord to come back right before you get that college degree, or if you had your choice would you prefer He wait until right after graduation day? Maybe you're engaged to be married. How would you like to go to heaven the day before your scheduled wedding? See what I mean? Paul really desired more than anything else to go to be with the Lord. We desire long, fulfilling "Christian" lives on earth - but we're willing to die and go to heaven ... when we really have to!

Living Martyrs

What God seeks for today is a Church full of dead men and women. Dead to themselves, that is - and alive to their Beloved! Have you ever read Foxe's Book Of Martyrs? Such stories! Men and women tortured for a faith that seemed to the world (and the organized church of that day) to be in vain - because they chose to die for what they believed rather than accept the false, temporary peace of the so-called "religion" of the times.

The Bible still prophesies terrifying times ahead for the world, a time of horror and tribulation "such as the world has never seen" (Matt. 24:21 LB) "men's hearts failing them for fear." (Luke 21:26 KJV,) According to Jesus, these times will try believers' hearts and faith more than any other in all the history of civilization. We must prepare for these times in the same way the apostle Paul did. He openly shared his secret of enduring suffering, torments, and persecution with joy - "I die daily!" Paul was a living martyr. He had been to the cross and had been "crucified with Christ." He had laid down upon the altar and counted all his strengths, talents, and benefits from this life as garbage so that he might "gain Christ." (I Cor. 15:31; Gal. 2:20; Phil. 3:7) Paul shares experiences in II Corinthians 11 that would make most of today's fainthearted believers shrink away from the faith - because the crucified life is not taught, only the "victory of the believer." But there is no victory without battle, and there is no resurrection without a cross. Today, many people with "charismatic" experiences have been led into the "upper room," without first going to the cross!

The Rapture - The Great Escape?

"Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord." -I Thess. 4:17 NASB

Many believers (especially in America) are hoping this event - called the "rapture" by Bible teachers - will deliver them from the sufferings that the Bible says will torment the whole earth. In fact, there are many who are more excited about this "rapture" than they are about Jesus Himself. Do these same people believe that they are more worthy to escape tribulation than Paul, or James, who both were beheaded? Or Peter who was crucified upside down (because he thought himself not worthy to be crucified as his Lord had been)? Or Bartholomew who was actually skinned alive in Rome? What about the millions of saints through the ages who have suffered unspeakable fates as their reward on earth for their faithfulness, or those in prison even now in Communist lands - why has there been no rapture for them? And what makes us congratulate ourselves here in the West, to think that we deserve to go scot-free from suffering when "men of whom the world was not worthy did not accept their release, in order that they might obtain to a better resurrection"? (see Heb. 11:35-38)

A Great Falling Away (Matt. 24:10)

I think that one of the saddest stories I've ever heard was how the believers in China fared when the Communists took over their country in 1949. The Evangelical churches had been teaching that the Church would definitely be raptured before any "great tribulation" or suffering would befall the faithful. It had become such a central doctrine that all worry (and preparation) were abandoned, and praise for their absolute safety from harm and persecution was offered at every meeting. Then the Communist government took over and a vicious attack was made upon the Church, including confiscation of property, beatings, imprisonment, and even the taking of children from parents. The unprepared Church was caught so off-guard that millions fell away and denied Christ, thinking they had been abandoned by a God who did not keep His promise. Ah, but that's just it! God has promised tribulation - God has promised persecution!

"In the world you shall have tribulation . . . he who desires to save his life shall lose it. . . all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted." (see John 16:33; Matt. 16:25; II Tim. 3:12) But these promises from God (no less precious than His others) were neglected in the teachings of the Chinese Church... just as they are being neglected today in the West. How sad to think that so many have become mesmerized into believing that no physical harm or suffering can befall them because they are Christians. But Jesus said, "Do not fear those who kill the body!" (Matt. 10:28 NASB)

I'm not saying there won't be a rapture. I'm just not too sure about the timing. Yes, I believe that God could deliver all true believers from the great tribulation, but since He hasn't always gotten even faithful Christians off the hook from suffering (in the Bible or in Church history), there's no guarantee that He'll protect the many lazy, apathetic believers of today from something that might not only wake them up, but would certainly divide the true sheep from the "religious" goats. When it comes to believing in either a pre-tribulation or post-tribulation rapture, my motto has always been: pray for "pre" but prepare for "post." That way we'll be ready for truly anything - which is exactly the way God wants us to be!

The thing that matters most to God Is that His people will be found ready to rule as the Bride of Jesus when He returns. There are so many warnings about being unprepared (Matt. 24: 42-51; Luke 21:34-36; I Thess. 5:2-3), parables that tell the fate of those who are not faithful or do not keep watch (Matt. 25:143; Luke 12:35-40, 19:11-27), and pleadings of a loving God who "does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked." (Ezek. 33:11) We should take heed the godly advice of the great apostle...

"Test yourselves to see if you are In the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you - unless indeed you fail the test?" -II Cor. 13:5 NASB

Three Who Loved Not Their Lives

There was a converted Hindu Christian martyr whose skin was slashed and filled with salt and chili powder. He said to his tormentors, "Formerly Satan wounded me with his fiery darts. The blood of Jesus healed those wounds. The suffering caused by your wounds is not much." Enraged by these words, they started to skin him alive. " I thank you for this," he said, "tear off the old garment. I shall soon put on Christ's garment of righteousness." He was finally burned praying for his persecutors. (A Book Of Protestant Saints by Ernest Gordon)

Then there was Alan Cameron, one of the "convenanters" of the great Scottish persecutions, who was shown the head and the hands of another covenanter, his own son Richard. They asked him the cruel question, "Do you know them?" He kissed them saying, "I know them... I know them. They are my son's, my own dear son's. It is the Lord. Good is the will of the Lord, who cannot wrong me nor mine, but has made goodness and mercy to follow us all our days." (Fair Sunshine by Jock Purvis)

Thomas Haukes, after refusing to have his son baptized into the Roman Church, was ordered to a fiery death by the Bishop of London. During his agony, he stretched forth his burning hands and clapped them together three times, signifying to his friends that God was giving him grace in the fire. June 10, 1555. (Foxe's Book Of Martyrs by John Foxe)

Wow, oh wow! What an awesome post! Thank you Kerry for posting this. I had never heard this from Keith before! What an awesome man after God's own heart he was! I think he died when he did because God just couldn't stand not having him up there with Him! God just had to have Keith right there by His side immediately!

By the way, I hope this won't turn into a discussion on pre vs post trib rapture. The bigger lesson of what Keith said was that we should always be prepared at all times. No one can argue with that!

Thanks again Kerry!!

Agreed.

It's about having your heart ready for whatever is ahead. He clearly says at the beginning he doesn't know when the rapture is... just that too many are counting on it because they don't want to give up their stuff.

Diane, Those are great ideas and maybe if time allows will get a chance to do that! Right now I have a full time job and am busy up to my eyeballs!! But if the Lord tarries who knows! I am going to look for that live CD!! God bless you!

Melissa, the album I have is called Keith Green, the Live Experience (special edition). Comes with a DVD too, which I haven't watched yet.

It is so hard when you have a full time job, or full time kids! May God bless you and give you the rest and peace you need to be strengthened in your life right now!! Things have slowed way down for me in life and that is why I am able to do the volunteering. God has richly blessed me with extra time - but at the same time, I want to be responsible with it and use it for His Glory and to please Him. I have to fight being lazy and selfish. I don't want to be the lazy servant!

Thanks for that blessing Diane! I am glad that you are able to volunteer in that way. I agree that I don't ever want to be a lazy servant!! I sure am looking forward to a rest soon though!