April 27, 2010 - Times Online reports:
After 2700 years of exile the lost tribe of Manasseh is returning home!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is ABSOLUTELY amazing!!!!!!!!
I wonder if Israel will now see Mannasseh dip his foot in oil as Genesis clearly states???
I wonder what this means for John Brown and Zion Oil!!!!????
Wouldn't it be awesome if Israel struck black gold and had the USA eating out of its hand now that Iran is threatening the ME oil supply?!?!?! That would surely put Israel in the driver's seat!!!! Oh, I pray!!!!!
Seems like a God move to me.... He never ceases to amaze me!!!! Constantly outwitting these fools!!!!!!
Faith, it seems like I woke up full of questions this morning. Did the article say where the tribe of Mannasseh was found?
No problem!
I believe the article said they were exiled to India or north of India (if I remember correctly) and 7000 of them are making their way home! A Christian missionary group discovered them years ago!!!!
All of Jacob's sons are returning for the imminent "time of Jacob's trouble" to soon be fulfilled!!!!!!! The rapture has to be any moment now!!!!!!! Come, Lord Jesus, come!!!!!
Hi FAith.
Can you post bible scripture to back up what you are saying here :)..I want to send this to friends and need to share what it means....
thank you so much for this find.
Hi Joyful Susan,
I'm not exactly sure where it talks about this. I believe it's in Genesis. I will try to find out and get back to you!
FAITH
If it is not too much trouble :)..I can serch when i get home later.... thank you :) running fast out the door now...
'Manasseh's children' want to go home - December 6, 2002
AS NIGHT falls across the tropical jungle, the worshippers light the first Chanukkah candles on their makeshift menorahs amid the soft chanting of a Hebrew prayer. Then the lost tribe break into joyful song, calling for blessings on the land of their forefathers.
But the land they bless is not the hill country of Mizoram, once the domain of tribal chieftains and now an outpost of modern India. Their prayers are for Israel, the homeland from which they believe they were exiled 2,500 years ago by Assyrian invaders.
Aizawl, Mizoram’s hilltop capital, is a bustling town in the grip of “lost tribe†fever. Almost everyone here believes that they, the Chinlung, are descended from the Manasseh tribe, which settled in the Indo-Burmese border jungles after an odyssey through Iraq, Afghanistan and China.
Most express this conviction through a passionate identification with Israel, while continuing to stay true to the Christian faith they have followed for a century. The main bazaar — Zion Street — is dotted with shops with names such as “Israel Hardware†and “Jewish Storeâ€, all owned by staunch Christians.
Some have gone further, adopting Judaism in what they regard as a return to the traditions of their forefathers. They called themselves the Bnei Menashe, children of the biblical Manasseh, son of Joseph and founder of the ancient tribe from whom they claim descent. They meet every Shabbat in a ramshackle synagogue using prayerbooks written in phonetic Hebrew, a language few have mastered. On other days they pick their way through pork-saturated markets in search of kosher food.
The fortunate may eventually get on a list of potential immigrants to Israel, as 700 have done in the past decade. The goal of the Bnei Menashe is not to recreate their lost Jewish community here, but to return its members to the desert land they see as home.
The movement began in the early 1950s in Buolawng village when two Pentecostal Christians, Chala and Darnghaka, had visions in which angels declared that they were the people of Israel. There were already rumours of such connections from some who had noted similarities between ancient Jewish rites and those of the Chinlung’s pre-Christian animism.
“We looked ourselves in the Bible and found many things were the same,†said Darnghaka, now in his eighties. They included sacrificial rituals, a story about crossing the Red Sea in which their enemies were swallowed and, crucially, the name of the man they believe to be their ancestor, Manasseh. “We started practising things as Jewish people did, copying from the Bible. We sacrificed goat and observed Passover.†They then made contact with Israeli envoys about the possibility of going to Israel. But armed rebels were fighting for the region’s independence and Indian intelligence officials told them to disband. The rebels, fearing a rival rallying call, put pressure on too and, in 1966, Buolawng was razed by the Indian Army.
The Zionist movement was disbanded, but the lost tribe legend had taken root and in the late 1970s another group made contact with Israel. The inquiry attracted the attention of the lost tribe hunter Rabbi Eliyahu Avichail, who went to Mizoram and was more than ready to accept the Bnei Menashe claim. His mission had a political as well as a religious component — to help to populate settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Right-wing American Jewish financiers contributed funds to bring the Bnei Menashe to settlements where they replaced Palestinian labourers.
Other Israelis have been less welcoming, regarding the Bnei Menashe as economic migrants. Most scholars view their claim with grave suspicion. Ask local “experts†for evidence and you are given a mishmash of fact and fiction about tribal traditions. The Bnei Menashe insist that evidence is unnecessary; they simply know the legend is true. “This is not our land,†said Vered Sela, a young teacher, “Israel is our promised land; that is where we are from.â€
Hillel Halkin, an Israeli author who has just published a book on the Bnei Menashe, arrived here five years ago as a sceptic. But after several trips and much research he became sure that among the Chinlung were indeed the remnants of the lost tribe of Manasseh. What convinced him were ancient oral histories and chants, which predated the arrival of Christianity and included obscure biblical Hebrew phrases. A clincher was a ceremony almost identical to Passover that the Chinlung, not usually bread-eaters, celebrated with unleavened bread.
Halkin plans to return next year to conduct DNA testing to see if Jewish genetic markers can be isolated among the Chinlung. If so, he says, “it would be the first historical case ever to identify a trace of a tribe that left Israel 3,000 years ago. It would be a powerful statement of the power of Jewish identity.â€
Others believe that the lost tribe movement has more to do with Mizoram’s identity crisis as a sliver of land tacked on to India by the end of British rule; a Christian outpost in a Hindu nation.
Allenby Sela, Vered’s husband, says his search for identity ended when he kissed the tarmac at Ben Gurion airport nine years ago. His action earned him curious looks from a security guard who thought he was an immigrant worker. The guard’s confusion deepened when Sela said that he was a Jew.
One cannot help wondering whether a few years from now, in a settlement in Gaza, a child will look up at Sela and ask: “Daddy, where am I from?â€
After three millennia in exile, Bnei Menashe lost tribe heads home - April 27, 2010
When Tzvi Khaute landed at Tel Aviv for the first time, he wanted to kiss the earth. Alas, the modern airport was all tarmac and stone, so he kissed the first soil he came across, in a flowerpot. Thousands of diaspora Jews from around the world make aliyah — the migration to Israel — every year, but for Tzvi and his fellow Tibeto-Burmese immigrants from the far northeast of India, the journey was particular freighted with symbolism. They believe they are descendants of one of the ten lost tribes of Israel, sent into exile by the Assyrians almost 800 years before the Romans destroyed the temple in Jerusalem.
About 1,700 members of the Bnei Menashe tribe — the Sons of Manasseh, one of the original 12 biblical tribes of Israel — have migrated to Israel, completing what they believe is an extraordinary, 2,700-year exile that took them from the Middle East seven centuries before the Christian era, through Afghanistan, China, Burma and India, before they heard that a new state of Israel had been created 62 years ago.
“A hundred years ago, my forefathers thought the land of Israel was not on this earth, they thought it was something in heaven,†said Mr Khaute, a smiling 35-year-old wearing a kippa, or skullcap. In India, about 7,000 more are waiting for the green light to close the circle of almost three millennia.
The Bnei Menashe, then known as the Shinlung or Kuki people, were discovered in their remote home in the India-Burma border state of Manipur by Christian missionaries at the end of the 19th century. They were surprised to find that the natives already seemed to know some of the biblical stories they taught, while local people believed they had rediscovered the religion told about in their traditions relating to a long-lost ancestor. Many converted to Christianity, but in recent decades have begun switching their faith to Judaism, a creed that was not yet fully formed when their ancestors left the Middle East.
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* Claims of descent from Britain to Japan
Mr Khaute recites a song in the Kuki language, which he said translated as “Quick, quick into Zion†and he and his friends used to sing as children, at one of a number of festivals that they say point to their ancient Israelite heritage. They believe it relates to the biblical escape from Egypt.
According to Bnei Menashe lore, the tribe escaped from Assyrian slavery and headed east, through Ancient Persia, Afghanistan and Tibet, to settle for a time in China, where they were once again persecuted and expelled in about AD100. From there, they trickled in smaller groups into South-East Asia, where they remained until this day.
It was only when the state of Israel was created in 1948 that some of the Bnei Menashe began to believe they were descended from Ancient Israelites and started dreaming of return. That process accelerated when one of their members had a vision instructing him to lead his people back to the land of their ancestors, whom he judged to be original Israelites.
Some made aliyah individually, but it was not easy, as under rabbinical laws they were no longer Jewish, after generations of co-mingling with other nations. It was not until an Israeli non-governmental organisation was set up to help to repatriate them that they started to arrive in larger numbers, although there is still no government policy allowing full-scale migrations, as happened with the Ethiopian Jews in the 1980s. The group, now headed by Michael Freund, a US-Israeli journalist, lobbied one of Israel’s chief rabbis to send a fact-finding mission to India in 2004, and as a result a year later the Bnei Menashe were recognised officially as being descendants of Israel.
Mr Freund said that the Bnei Menashe had many rituals and ceremonies that resembled those of Ancient Israel, though significantly none that reflected the holidays of Purim and Chanukkah, as they mark events in the Bible that occurred after the ten tribes were lost to the Assyrian invaders.
Seminary schools were set up by Mr Freund’s group in India to teach Judaism and Hebrew to speed up the process, but that programme was halted when the Indian Government objected to what it saw as missionary activity. Now, the Bnei Menashe are trickling into Israel on tourist visas to convert and gain citizenship.
“We decided the system was unmanageable at 100 people a year for a community of 7,000 people,†Mr Freund, who heads Shavei Israel, or Return to Israel, said. “We have begun lobbying for permission for the entire community to come here.â€
The project has run into criticism, with detractors condemning the fact that many, such as Mr Khaute, were sent to hardline Jewish settlements in the West Bank, Kiryat Arba, in Hebron. But Mr Freund said that without government support, the settlements were the only communities willing to accommodate the new arrivals.
The Bnei Menashe are not the only unrecognised Jews Mr Freund’s group is in contact with. They also support the “lost Jews†of Poland, offspring of Jewish parents who gave their children to Catholic institutions in the Nazi invasion for safekeeping, and who subsequently never knew their heritage.
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THEY HAVE A WEBSITE:
http://www.BneiMenashe.com/
In North East India, in the land mass that lies between Myanmar (formerly Burma) and Bangladesh, there lives a small group of people who have been practicing Judaism for more than 25 years. They have not taken on a "new" religion. These people, in fact, have returned to the religion of their ancestors. They call themselves Bnei Menashe,
descendants of the Tribe of Menashe, one of the ten lost tribes.
In the time of the first Temple, Israel was divided into two kingdoms. The southern kingdom, known as Judah, was made up mostly of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levy. Most Jews today are descended from the southern kingdom. The northern kingdom of Israel was made up of the remaining ten tribes. In approximately 721 B.C.E., the Assyrians invaded the northern kingdom, exiled the ten tribes living there and enslaved them in Assyria.
The oral history of Bnei Menashe that was passed down for 2,700 years describes their escape from slavery in Assyria to Media/Persia. From there they moved on to Afghanistan, mostly through less-traveled areas, ever on the lookout for kings or powerful people who might drag them back to slavery. From Afghanistan they traveled toward Hindu-Kush and proceeded to Tibet, then to Kaifeng, reaching the Chinese city around 240 B.C.E.
The Bnei Menashe believe that while in China their ancestors were enslaved yet again. During their years there, large numbers of the Israelites were killed and their assimilation started. These events caused the Israelites to flee and live in caves. The group was expelled in 100 C.E. and their "leather scrolls" were confiscated and burned. At that point different groups went in various directions. Some went down the Mekong River into Vietnam, the Philippines, Siam, Thailand and Malaysia, while some of the Israelites moved to Burma and west to India. Till today, some people refer to these people as "Shinlung" the "cave dwellers."
Today, the descendants of those Israelites who settled in India and Burma have different names depending on where they live. Some are known as Shinlung, some Kuki, Mizo, Lushai or Mar. In 1894, Christian missionaries arrived to the Manipur area of North East India, intent on converting the local population. The Kukis, having been brought up with an oral history of their link to their ancestor "Manmaseh" and other stories, recognized some of the Bible stories. They eventually converted to what they thought was the religion of their ancestors and began practicing Christianity. One Bnei Menashe song, which had been handed down and carried throughout their travels,
describes part of the Exodus from Egypt:
We must keep the Passover festival
Because we crossed the Red Sea on the dry land
At night we crossed with a fire
And by day with a cloud
Enemies pursued us with chariots
And the sea swallowed them up
And used them as food for the fish
And when we were thirsty
We received water from the rock
In 1951, a Pentecostal minister named Tchalah had what he believed to be a prophecy from God. He was told that his people must return to their original land and the religion they came from, before the war of Armageddon. Additional prophecies led him to write to the Knesset, but the fledgling State of Israel did not invite Bnei Menashe home, nor did Tchalah's movement grow significantly. About 20 years later, some Kukis who were dissatisfied with Christianity started researching the origins of their religion and realized that they were not descended from Christians, but from Jews. They discovered that their tradition of being the "children of Manmaseh" actually referred to the tribe of Menashe.
Small numbers started to learn and practice Judaism. During the process of their research and return to Judaism, contact was made with Rabbi Eliyahu Avichail in Jerusalem. Rabbi Avichail - founder of Amishav, an organization dealing with the dispersed of Israel - took a strong interest in this small but dedicated group. Evidence of their Jewish roots is very strong with customs such as performing circumcision on the eighth day following birth, honouring levirate marriages, offering sacrifices on altars and wearing shawls that resemble the Talit. Despite this evidence, rabbinic authorities determined that the status of these "cousins" to be that of "safek Jews." Since their Jewish status is not known for sure, they require conversions to be considered Jewish.
Over a period of years the group grew, and today there are about 5,000 practicing as Jews in North East India and across the border in Myanmar. The Kuki and Mizo tribes comprise about 1.5 million people. Those who call themselves Bnei Menashe are only a small part of the larger Kuki tribe. Unlike the Naga tribe they live beside, the Kukis are seen as outsiders and transient. Manipur is a closed area, requiring special permits for outsiders to visit because of the fighting. The Nagas hope to rid the region of the Kukis. The morgue in Imphal, Manipur's capital, displays a sign for a coffin maker. Business is brisk with people being killed almost daily in the battle between these groups. Most recently, the village of Churachandpur was attacked, residents killed, the synagogue destroyed and the homes of the Kuki residents burned. If these people are not permitted to move to Israel soon, this lost tribe might become lost forever.
More than 300 Bnei Menashe have gone to Israel, where they have undergone conversion and have settled with the help of Rabbi Avichail and Amishav. Many live in the Gush Katif area, work in agriculture and serve in the army. The rest of Bnei Menashe would like to move to Israel and join the few who have been able to obtain permission from the Israeli authorities to move back home. Past experience with other immigrations might explain Israel's fear that these people are "economic immigrants" "opportunists" and not true Jews.
Bnei Menashe look to Zion, not for washing machines or microwaves but for a fulfillment of a dream they carried with them during their exile of 2,700 years. A stanza of a modern poem they wrote speaks volumes:
Oh my brother Judah
Unsatisfied with me,
Won't thou forgive me still, I pray;
Yet I don't think time is a barrier;
When the day of promise arrives...
Faith GREAT THREAD GIRL. Thanks!
TN You rock. The walking stick blew me away.
awesome post TN.
These are the most amazing times since Jesus walked the earth!
Awesome happenings!!! The 'scattered' tribes are finding their way back to their land as foretold and Promised by our awesome GOD!!! It is obvious God is leading His elect and setting up His world for His return!! This is a HUGE sign!!!
This is from a secular point of view that I see. What does the Bible show.?? Gen. 48:15-19 shows clearly that Ephraim would become a great colonizing nation and Manassah would become a great single nation upon the earth sometime in the future from Genesis..
Would you consider this little sect that was (all of a sudden awakened in 1951) a nation that was used by God to overcome the Gentiles and to be a shining light to the Gentiles..
Look at history, do a search and use the Bible along with that..
In 1Kings 11:9-11 God divides the nation of Israel into two families. House of Israel (10 tribes) and House of Judah (3 tribes Judah, Benjamin, and Levites). The House of Judah are the ONLY JEWS.
I hear some many preachers / teachers talk about the 12 tribes of Jews... There's only 3 tribes and ONLY THEY kept the Sabbaths up to today. The 10 tribes lost their identity because they did NOT keep the Sabbaths.
The 10 tribes taken by the Assyrians were repopulated along the Black Sea area.. Over the years they migrated NORTH and WEST... Isa.49.. When they come back it will be from the North and West. That won't happen until after Jesus comes down to earth after the trib. period..
There's centuries of history laid out in Micah 5.. During the trib. period, Jacob is still in the earth (House of Israel or Jacob-10 tribes)
Micah5:7 ¶ And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the middle of many people as a dew from the LORD, as the showers on the grass, that tarries not for man, nor waits for the sons of men.
This was from 721BC when taken captive.. Look at the nations in Europe today... Modern history has no clue as to where these people came from..
Eze. shows that the throne of David was overthrown from Judah and placed in Israel (Ephraim's head or Joseph's Head)..
Eze 21:26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, [Israel] and abase him that is high., [Judah]
27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him., [Jesus]
God is controlling all of this and there's nothing that he doesn't know.. He has used HIS Chosen People to do his purpose upon the earth.
I hear people calling the USA, Babylon.. The greatest Godly nation ever to exist upon the earth in our time period.. Because of the USA, people were set free of a tyrannical type of government to "We the People" until 1961 when the liberals came into power. The liberals started kicking God out, and this is the results that we have today here in the USA..
Babylon is and will always be stationed in the mid-east where it started from and where it will end.
The USA was the most giving, probably the most missionary nation on earth at one time, but God has used the USA in a powerful way to overthrow the Gentiles and to bring about the LIGHT to the World..
Then at the culmination of history Jer. shows that God will destroy those nations that the Israelites are in because of the great sins once again as in the days past. Finish reading Micah 5 for the ending.
Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the Lord: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.
Isa.27:6 He shall cause them that come of Jacob
[talking about the House of Israel] to take root: Israel shall blossom and bud, and fill the face of the world with fruit. All over earth not just Israel.
Isa 42:6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Isa 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
We know that the House of Judah has rejected Jesus as a whole, so who’s God talking about? It’s the House of Israel. Just keep in mind, whenever you read about the House of Israel, it’s about Ephraim and Manasseh for the future from the time of the writing. Read all these associated verses and get a better understanding from this. Remember anytime you read about the House of Israel in Jeremiah or Ezekiel it concerns our period of time. Jer 51:20 Thou art my battle ax and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;
Does that sound like the Jews are kicking butt down the centuries of time, absolutely not..
God has brought the WORD of his Son, Jesus to the world by way of his people (the House of Israel) until the end of times, which we live in today.
TIME IS UP...
Jesus is coming very soon..
Joseph
I tend to agree with you, RJ.
I do think the US is largely Ephraim & Manasseh is largely Great Britain because of the reasons you stated.
But, it is possible that one small part of Manasseh went east when the others went north & west. Families don't always stick together. I definitely do not think all of Manasseh is in India. The Lord said He would bless both Ephraim & Manasseh over the others, but Ephraim got the double blessing. So, their numbers would be huge (like the US).
Europe very likely holds most of the rest of the other lost tribes. IE: the Danish are almost certainly from the tribe of Dan.
Joyful Susan,
My mistake...
The passages refer to Manasseh's brother, Asher, and the land given to him that borders the land given to Manasseh. Check out these passages:
Deut 32:13, Gen 49:25, Deut 33:24, Deut 33:13
For more info you can also check out John Brown's testimony at www.zionoil.com.
Sorry for any confusion!
FAITH
I hear people calling the USA, Babylon.. The greatest Godly nation ever to exist upon the earth in our time period.. Because of the USA, people were set free of a tyrannical type of government to "We the People" until 1961 when the liberals came into power. The liberals started kicking God out, and this is the results that we have today here in the USA..
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RJ I agree that this nation has done more for sending out the gospel than any other in history. However, we should not be too offended if it turns out that this country is a type of Babylon and is in the bible in Rev. 18.
There is a reference of Jerusalem actually being called "Sodom and Egypt" Rev. 11:8 and that is located in God's chosen real estate!!
OK Joe, sorry. I see what you are saying. It is certainly true that there has been a hardening of hearts of all the tribes of Judah and Israel at this time.
And while there was a separation of tribes at the time of the rebellion after King Solomon, I can find no evidence that God has permanently separated the descendants of Jacob into two houses that are divided today.
Having some Jewish blood myself, I do not know which tribe I belong to, if any. (even though I believe it could be either Ephraim or Dan) I also know many Jewish people who do know what tribe they are direct descendants of.
Anyway, not to belabor the point, I believe Scripture teaches that all Israel will be saved (in a corporate sense) (Rom. chapter 11) and that there will be a remnant from each tribe listed in Rev. 7.
Once the time of the Gentiles is over at the rapture, then all the tribes of Israel will return to Israel and God will woo them back to Himself.(they will not be safe anywhere else) Thats what the last week of Daniel is about.
Come quickly Lord Jesus
Tom
PRAISE THE LORD,
We are seeing scripture come alive.
Never thought this vessel would see these things.
BUT wah hoo.
GLORY TO GOD,
Star