Hoping no one will be too discouraged if the rapture doesn't happen in the next 24 hours or so.
I for one, do not feel the rapture is within the next few days. Why? I have always believed that all those who were looking, watching and waiting would be given a sure sign at least three days in advance. The reason is because of patterns and pictures in scripture.
Of course, I could be wrong.
Anyway, the year we call 2010 may not be the year God considers 2010. In fact, He may not go by our calendar at all. We know for a fact that His Spiritual year for Israel starts in the Spring at Passover. So why are we looking at Dec. 31st as the end of a year God is using?
If God has TRULY shown some people that He is coming back in 2010 and it doesn't happen in the next day, then maybe His year of 2010 ends on Passover, or maybe this is not really 2010 AD.
Just a thought for your consideration.
Tom
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Great mind and preparation for RITA, Tom!
Sure we would all need to follow God's timing.
Hope not disappointed if Rapture not in 2010AD.
We are just excited that the signs are indeed happening quickly...even so, come, Lord Jesus!
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I've said this once on a different forum and I'll say it again:
There are many gentile calendars in this world besides the gregorian and jewish...i repeat many.
To say GOD will honor this specific Gentile pagan calendar out of the many "gentile" calendars is a bit too much.
That's the reality.
We know God is gonna rapture us soon, but I highly doubt GOD is going to honor a man made calendar that is strictly pagan and solar in nature and neglects the moon and star courses, which GOD himself in Genisis tells us to take into account when reckoning time, which is another fact.
This Gregorian calendar is only one of many gentile calendars observed thoughout the world, though it is the internationaly accepted one.
I bet the people in Ethiopia or China or India are saying God will honor thier Gentile calendar.
Fact is, we just don't know when he's coming. We just know it's soon. Very soon.
Some calendars start their month with the dark moon Some calendars start with the first crescent.
Some start the year at the spring equinox
Some start the year in the fall
Some start the year on January 1st winter.
Some calendars are 354 days
Somee calendars are 364 days
Some calendars are 365.2425
Some calendars start their day at sunset
Some calendars start their day at sunrise
Some start the day at 12 Midnight.
Some calendars are strictly Solar (USA)
Some calendars are strictly Lunar (Muslims)
Some calendars are both Lunar and Solar (Jewish, Chinease, Hindu ect...)
I suppose the 1 million dollar question is...
Out of the many Gentile Calendars currently being observed on this earth, whether internationaly accepted or not, which of them will God honor?
Surely he will Honor the one Satan has suppressed from everyone.
Just like Satan has confused us with many religions (many flavors of Christianity)........
Surely he has also confused us with all these current calendars being observed thoughout the world.
The real calendar I believe will be releaved via the 2 witnesses since they come down directly from heaven, having that special knowledge to give to everyone. Yup, no DVD to buy folks. All free.
That's what I personally feel anyway. I could be wrong, as always.
Based on the patterns from 1917, 1947, 1967...I, just like you and most people on this forum belive 2010 is it. I pray it is, but I'm thinking it's not.
Those voices people heard of GOD rapturing us in 2010....who was really talking to you?
Everyone have a great NEW GREGORIAN TROPICAL YEAR.
After all, this is a tropical calendar, based on the tropical year that comes from Tropical Astrology, which never existed in Antiquity.
Something to think about.
Watching Tom! On the rooftop watching! He is Coming! Maybe in a day! Maybe before summer comes 2011!
In any case, we must stay VERY VERY close to Jesus! This is no joke. There are really no more signs we need.
Dear Robert Rose,
I would like to point out that this may not be as pagan after all...because 2010 AD is year honouring the birth of Christ, right?
since 1 AD is widely believed to be Christ's birthday or I guess conceived date.
although Gregorian calendar is not extremely accurate
365.24219 days per year...
It is quite close to the Jewish calendar
365.2468 days per year.
difference by fraction of a second???
Pls check my website and see the timelines...
http://www.4shared.com/document/9oBLR0ee/Rapture_anytime_fr_dec_2010AD_.html
My Pastor said that I am meticulous
Hope you would understand what he meant.
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If God said "2010" to some people, I would think God was referencing the calendar used by those he said "2010" to.
And if time zones matter, I would think that it would still be 2010 in the time zone(s) where those people live, at the time of the rapture or start of the tribulation.
But I could be wrong.
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The Lord sends see among the nations, then the timetable should be our present.
See ye among the nations, and behold, and wonder marvellously; for {I} work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be declared {to you}.(Habacuque 1 : 5)
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Tom,
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The Lord reveals the time of the tribulation but not the rapture.
I believe the Lord has revealed in his Word when the tribulation will take place, however the day of the rapture from what I can see is an unannounced event. All we can do is be ready for the Bridegrooms coming with our lamps burning brightly for Jesus.
If you look at the example of Elijah, the Lord let the sons of the prophets know on the day when Elijah would be raptured, however this day was not foreknown weeks, months or years in advance. And so it will be the same with the church, we may know on the day of the rapture that Jesus is coming for us and not before.
2 Kings 2:3 And the sons of the prophets who were in Bethel came out to Elisha and said to him, "Do you know that today the LORD will take away your master from over you?" And he said, "Yes, I know it; keep quiet."
However as I said before it appears the scriptures reveal the timeframe for the tribulation. There are 2 different prophetic stories that reveal a 2,000 year gospel that starts from the resurrection and will end at the beginning of the tribulation.
You basically have 2 choices for calculating the 2,000 year gospel age to the Gentiles, a 360 Biblical year or a 365 day calendar year.
2,000 Biblical years of 360 days equals 1,971 calendar years of 365 days. When you add 1,971 years (2,000 years of 360 days) to the resurrection in 30-33A.D. you get 2001-2004 for the beginning of the tribulation.
Since the tribulation did not begin in the 2001-2004 timeframe it appears the 365 day calendar year represents the 2,000 gospel age to the Gentiles. 2,000 years from the resurrection in 30-33A.D. points to the 2030-2033 timeframe for the beginning of the tribulation.
The generation born in 1948 that saw the fig tree blossom (Israel becoming a nation) will be 89-92 years old at the end of the tribulation in the 2037-2040 timeframe.
Mark 13:28-30 "From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. (29) So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that he is near, at the very gates. (30) Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away (cease to exist) until all these things take place.
In Mark 13:30, Jesus said this generation shall not pass away (cease to exist) before all these things take place. Jesus words seem to reveal the generation that saw the fig tree blossom in 1948 may be near the point of ceasing to exist just before his return.
If the tribulation ends in the 2037-2040 time frame the fig tree generation born in 1948 will be 89-92 years old and at the point of passing away, or ceasing to exist just before the Lord returns.
There are several prophetic stories that point to the years of 2031-2038 for the tribulation and this timeframe is pointed out several different ways in the scriptures.
Also in 2032-2034 are 6 eclipses of the moon that appear to be tribulation events. So I would have to say we have a long road to go yet before the rapture of the church and the beginning of the tribulation.
The information on the 6 eclipses is below.
http://www.biblicalastronomy.com/08may.htm
LUNAR ECLIPSES ON FEAST DAYS
Speaking of the moon, in late April I started to receive a number of e-mail inquiries concerning a video produced by J.R. Church featuring a presentation by Mark Biltz on certain upcoming lunar eclipses occurring on the feast days of Passover and Sukkoth in the years 2014 and 2015. Also mentioned were upcoming solar eclipses over the next three years and others in the years 2014 and 2015 starting with the total solar eclipse that is to occur on August 1, 2008. First of all, Mark Biltz gave a real good presentation on the upcoming events. However, since I have received so many inquiries on it, I am dedicating most of this newsletter to present more facts of the mentioned eclipses as well as on other such eclipses in the last century and in this century. The links below are to the video presentations that Mark Biltz did on J.R. Church’s program “Prophecy in the News.”
http://66.155.114.80/video/Dsl/5904-D.wmv
http://66.115.114.80/video/Dsl/5904-E.wmv
I also received e-mails that added false info to Mark’s presentation, such as all the eclipses will be visible from Jerusalem and this will be the last time for hundreds of years that such a series of eclipses will be seen. Mark did not say these things in the presentations that I watched and the added info is just not true. Mark did say that the four total eclipses in 2014 and 2015 would be the last time this century to occur on Passover and Sukkoth. This may be true if you just use the Jewish Talmudic calendar which has its share of problems. There will also be a tetrad of four total lunar eclipses in the years 2032 and 2033. The first will occur on April 25, which may be Passover on the Biblical calendar if the barley is late in ripening that year. We will not know for sure until that time comes. If that is the Passover, then the next total eclipse on October 18, 2032 will fall on Sukkot. The two total eclipses in 2033 will fall on Passover and Sukkot and there will also be two lunar eclipses on Passover (penumbral) and Sukkot (partial) in 2034. All six of these eclipses except for one, the total eclipse on October 8, 2033 (Sukkot), will be visible from Jerusalem and Israel.
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So now we're saying 2034? 24 more years to wait now? That is just too discouraging! I know for a fact with my health issues and age that would mean I am coming back with Jesus at the rapture as one of the dead in Christ that rises first then. But doesn't that mess up the "generation" thing somehow? Oh how I hope it's not that long!
Sorry, I just read the part just now in your post about the generation. I do hope it's not that long.
Shalom,
Please dont push God with your timeline. Let God decide in what time or in what year He will come to save us all from this world.
1 thing for sure, i totally believe that our King, The Great Yeshua Hamasiach will NOT come in this 2010, which is in Indonesia right now only 4 hours left.
I dont want to set any dates, but since The Born of Israel in 1948, there will be no 1 generation (70years) than end in 2010, but it could be in 2011 or 2012. Remember Jesus NEVER told us about Jubilee year, but all the clue from Him are: Period of 1 Generation after The Rebirth of Israel, The Day of Noah, Solar Eclipse, Blood Moon and the falling stars, and all Wars and Disasters that should happen before He comes. And ofcourse He also said that: THAT DAY will NOT come before the man of sin revealed him self to the world.
So...please be patient, our Glorify Day will happen during 2011-2012. For me, i will consider Shavout, Rosh Hasanah, Chesvan 17 as potential days for Rapture days in 2011 and 2012.
May God bless us all. HAPPY NEW YEAR 2011 everyone.
PS: Sorry for my bad english.
-VEY-
Hi Vey, salam kenal, apa kamu dari Indonesia ? Senang bertemu denganmu.
Tom, I believe you're right. Scott said the same thing, so what you just said sounds like a confirmation to me!
It doesn't make sense for the Lord to go by a Gregorian solar calendar anyway. Prophesy has always centered around Israel, so it would make sense that the Lord would go by the biblical lunar new year, which starts on Nissan 1. In 2011, that would be on April 5, 2011. That starts the count of the first month according to the Bible. The beginning of Passover was the first month, and the first day of the month, according to Exodus 12, starting in verse one:
1 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron in Egypt,
2 “This month is to be for you the first month, the first month of your year.
Then going to verse 13 and 14:
13 The blood will be a sign for you on the houses where you are, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. No destructive plague will touch you when I strike Egypt.
14 “This is a day you are to commemorate; for the generations to come you shall celebrate it as a festival to the LORD—a lasting ordinance.
So Nissan 1 is actually the biblical new year, not December 31st.
It appears as if the Lord has confirmed to many the He is coming in 2010. But like you and Scott pointed out, Tom, the Lord's concept of a new year is not the same as ours.
Thanks for this encouragement, Tom. 3 or 4 more months is not long to wait against the backdrop of eternity.
Okay, I just did some figuring earlier this morning, and this is what I came up year.
The 1967 war would have been in the Hebrew year 5727.
This correlates with 1966-1967.
If I'm understanding correctly, according to Leviticus, the trumpet is sounded in the 49th year.
Mike's post of Dec 29 at http://pub48.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=4086901292&frmid=13&msgid=1050208&cmd=show would support a resurrection date in 43AD instead of 30-33AD.
If we count the resurrection from then, we are off by over 10 years. The political situation seems as though there will be a middle east war and perhaps korean war before then. Maybe also the US will be attacked before then or become weaker from economic and political divisions.
Is there other evidence in the Bible or archeology records to support one over the other dates?
Please Lord come back soon.
Our Saviour would not have given false hope in Luke 21:36 "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." This is our blessed hope, and founded on Christ's own word. If we are off on when to count that 2000 years, then please Lord help us all to stand and not lose our faith.
I found the following on a website about archeology regarding the timeframe that Christ was crucified which is interesting but doesn't give a closer date...
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In 1945 a family tomb was discovered in Jerusalem by Prof. E.L. Sukenik of the Museum of Jewish Antiquities of the Hebrew University. Prof. Sukenik is the world's leading authority on Jewish ossuaries. Note his findings:
Two of the ossuaries bear the name "Jesus" in Greek. . . . The second of these also has four large crosses drawn. . . . (Prof. Sukenik) concluded that the full inscriptions and the crosses were related, being expressions of grief at the crucifixion of Jesus, being written about that time. . . . Professor Sukenik points out . . . (that) the cross may represent a "pictorial expression of the crucifixion, tantamount to exclaiming `He was crucified!'" As the tomb is dated by pottery, lamps and the character of the letters used in the inscriptions--from the first century B.C. to not later than the middle of the first century A.D. this means that the inscriptions fall within two decades of the Crucifixion at the latest. (Ancient Times, Vol. 3, No. 1, July 1958, p. 35. See also Vol. 5, No. 3, March 1961, p. 13.)
http://www.bible.ca/d-history-archeology-crucifixion-cross.htm
What you say Tom, may well be true. Hoping that your wrong, in a very big way. If not, it will be my pleasure, to continue looking up, and falling in love with Him more and more each day!
Love & blessings...Tender Reed
I do not doubt that God is working on His own timeline, which may or may not be the Jewish calendar. However, God is not the author of confusion.
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
God does not tell people a Gregorian year, but mean it is really the next year because of the Jewish calendar. Talk about confusion! We are told to test the spirits not come up with reasons to continue believing them.
1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
I pray we all meet in the clouds within the next few hours. However, I'm not going to cling to dreams or visions or a suggested date. We are told to watch the signs, and the signs say it is soon!
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DJ,
I looked at the website you recommended, it is packed with some good information. If you would like a couple of detailed articles I have been working on send me your email address.
Keep up the good fight of faith.
Greg
Email: gcon@usfamily.net
Sorry, but if this is true, it just makes me want to
...the recent point in history to begin 'the count' has always been May 1948. The count re-sets itself wherever the 'corporate' nation re-enters 'the land'.
How do we know the Shmittah (Sabbath) and Yovel (Jubilee) Year Cycle?
it just so happens that this point in history is tied to the Daniel 3-tiered prophecy so much so that to ignore it would be like abandoning all common sense.
AND HEREIN LIES THE KEY TO UNDERSTANDING THE TIME.
The 3rd Layer (#3 - 70 Years | 70 Shavuots);
Did this layer of 70 years begin on the Shavuot of May 16th following the Israeli Declaration of Independence on May 15th 1948? Or did it begin at some later time (1967)? Or will it begin at some future period? Or is this third layer simply a figment of our imagination?
allowing for the 1967 nation at 20 years old and going to war points to a prophetic milestone for us to BEGIN the next jubilee count (and being verified) by the ancient omer count to the next Shavuot (as a microcosm
of the Feast of Weeks).
The focus then becomes properly over the next few days, then the next few weeks and maybe even months if need be as we approach the upcoming new Jewish year this March or April 2011.
Any other attempts to push a time-line out beyond 12 months is feeble at best and pure speculation regardless of whose name is authored. Hope we keep this in mind as we enter another new phase of watching.
DJ,
My study on Joseph is 26 pages long with several charts, it is a Word document. If I posted it on RITA the charts would be left out.
Plus I wanted to try to get everything written down on paper before I present it on the internet. However if someone is interested in what I am working on I can email my studies.
However it would be nice to talk with you DJ and share a few thoughts on the tribulation. I would appreciate some fellowship with someone who is like minded on this subject.
Here is a brief summary of what I am working on.
8 possible paths point to 2031-2038 for the 7 years of tribulation
1. The prophetic stories of Joseph and Joshua reveal a 2,000 year gospel period that started from the resurrection and will end in the 2030-2033 timeframe which will be followed by 7 years of tribulation that will end in approximately 2037-2040.
2. The prophetic numbers 83, 84, 85, 86, 90 within several stories reveal the number of years for the generation that was born or alive when Israel blossomed as a nation in 1948 to events of the 7 year tribulation, 2031-2038.
3. Jesus stays with the Samaritan woman and her friends 2 days (2,000 YEARS), then Jesus returns to Israel to heal the officials son at the point of death in the 7TH hour (7TH year of the tribulation) followed by Jesus healing a crippled man of 38 years at the pool of Bethesda. (2,000+38 = 2038 when Israel who is at the point of death and spiritually crippled in the 7th year (7th hour) of the tribulation is miraculously healed by Jesus).
4. Psalms 83-90 AND 91 reveal the years of 2031-2038 for the tribulation. Psalm 76 may reveal the year of 2024 for the war of Gog.
5. 6 blood moon eclipses happen during 2032-2034 (5 of which are visible from Jerusalem) on feast days at the same point in time when the saints are put to death during the first 2 years of the tribulation in 2031-2033.
6. 483 TO 490 years in Daniel is prophetic for the 7 years of tribulation and it is similar to 83-90 years from 1948 when Israel will be in the tribulation. Israel’s 400 years of affliction in Egypt is prophetic for the persecution of Israel throughout the 4 corners of the world. When Israel’s symbolic 400 years of persecution in Egypt (the world) is added to the 83-90 years (from 1948) of Jewish occupation of Israel it totals 483-490 years, or the same number of years for Daniel’s 70th week known as the tribulation.
7. Ezekiel’s 430 years of judgment for Israel from the decree of Artaxerxes in 445 B.C. (or 2520 years calculated by Chuck Missler) ends on January 5, 2040 when the rebuilding of Jerusalem will begin shortly after the end of the tribulation in 2038.
8. 83 years from 1948 is the year 2031, or the beginning of the tribulation. Take the number 83 and add it to Daniel’s 70th week (the tribulation) and it equals 153, a number which represents the nations at end of the tribulation. Jesus told his disciples where to fish and they caught 153 fish which is prophetic for the end-time harvest of people throughout the nations of the world during the tribulation.
9. For 30 days before the 10 day feast of Rosh Hashanah (that begins in September) a trumpet is blown each day warning Israel to repent and return to the Lord before God’s judgment begins during the feast of Rosh Hashanah. This 30 day period of trumpet blasts is also known as “Teshuva” which means to repent.
If the 10 days of Rosh Hashanah is prophetic for God’s judgment of mankind during the 7 years of tribulation, could it be possible that 30 days of Teshuva is prophetic for 30 years of birth pangs (trumpet blasts) warning people to repent and return to the Lord before the tribulation begins?
If the tribulation begins in the September timeframe of 2031, a possible 30 year period of Teshuva also known as the birth pangs may have begun in September of 2001.
And what was the first trumpet blast heard around the world in September of 2001 that reveals the 30 year season of Tehsuva has begun? It was 9-11.
The meaning of this date is known around the world and since 9-11-2001 the world has seen tsunamis, major hurricanes and earthquakes that are trumpet blasts warning mankind to repent before the tribulation begins.
It would appear the 30 year period of birth pangs (known as 30 days of Teshuva) warning mankind to repent and return to God before the coming judgment of tribulation began with the twin towers falling in New York on 9-11-2001.
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With regards to Ernest L. Martin's teachings. I would not touch them with a ten foot pole with gloves on. They are toxic and radioactive to those who believe in the literal interpretation of the bible. He denies that Jesus was nailed to a cross, denies that the Red sea was parted by the supernatural work of God, claiming that a cold wind froze the water. Which is really amazing how they got all the people and cattle over that ice bridge before it melted and drowned all those Egyptians....Hmmm?
Here is an exerpt of Dr. Martin's opinions on the "Rapture Theory"
http://www.evangeland.com/Secret-Rapture-Theory.html
For information purposes only.
Ernest L. Martin's Conclusion:
While there are many suspicious factors conferred with the origin of the Rapture, it could be admitted that the doctrine MAY reflect a teaching found in the Bible. At least, many feel so. John Darby no doubt thought there was something to it because after his trip to Scotland he changed his mind from believing in a single stage coming and adopted the two stage doctrine which became known as the Rapture. Darby was certainly not a visionary and his teachings whether right or wrong) are almost always based on scriptural revelation. It was Darby who popularized the Rapture with the scriptural arguments which seem so convincing to SOME. It COULD be that the teaching is basically true, but we at the Foundation for Biblical Research in Pasadena have felt incumbent to show our readers the UNBIBLICAL source of the doctrine. Too many people have forgotten that it was Miss Macdonald's visions which introduced the doctrine to the world.
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His comments on the last part are completely untrue. First off, Miss Macdonald did not believe in a "Pre-Trib" rapture. She believed most of the church would go through the tribulation and only a small remnant would go before. Second, Mr Darby came to his "Theory" independently of Miss Macdonald's public statements. He came to the conclusions he did by comparing verses concerning the Second Coming did not match up with those regarding the Rapture.
Mr. Darby was also not the only one who taught Pre-Trib rapture thinking as there are sermons going all the way back to the early church fathers at Antioch in the first century. So Dr. Martins research is a bit shoddy.
So long story short, having read some of Mr. Martin's books, I would not recommend that ANY christian read them. Nor would I use any website material to rebut ANY argument as his teachings are false. He also believes in Universal Reconciliation which believes the following:
In theology, universal salvation , also called universal reconciliation (in context, simply universalism) is the doctrine that ALL immortal souls — because of the love and mercy of God — will ultimately be 'reconciled' with God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_reconciliation
This is another gospel than that according to the bible which is quite clear that there is a hell, and that all who reject Jesus Christ will end up there for all of eternity.
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Every TEACHING that DENIALS Yahshua was nailed to the Cross I WILL NOT TOUCH THAT AT ALL instead this what I will do to the teaching:
SPIT OUT OF MY MOUTH !
Because
Yahwhua is the Son of Yahweh who DIED upon the Cross for our sins and Rose to life with resurrection body and will come back again to receive us to live with Him forever.
Other than that PRINCIPAL TEACHING is a LIE and I would not recommend even touch that matter.
I don't think we really know what year it truly is, with all that has happened in history in the past 2k years. How can anyone know for sure what year it is?
for example:
some say Jesus was born in 2bc so would that make it 2013 and not 2011.
others say he was born in 7 bc
the calendar has been changed by the roman catholic church at least once
the dark ages lasted for at least 500 years
Europe was invaded by barbarians, moors, ottoman empire, many times, who did not use the same calendar
the black plague killed at least 1/3 of Europe.
If it truly is 2011 i guess it would be a miracle that it is the correct year since Jesus birth.
Leroy
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Sorry I did not read all threads and so I would just like to point out 1 important thing on Jubile year.
Jubile is the correct spelling.
Leviticus 25:9
Sun is for Gentiles and Moon for Israel
Could there be 3 times of Jubiles?
Is the 3 (2008,2009,2010AD) Total Solar Eclipses pointing to Sabbatical Years and Jubile Year for Gentiles from Heaven?
So the last day of Gentile Jubile is 10th July 2011?
Is 2014,2015AD with Tetrad Lunar Eclipses pointing to Sabbatical Years and Jubile Year for Israel's Jubile from heaven, too?
Is 2017AD indeed the Jubile Year after 1967AD 6day War which Israel miraculously won the War within 6days and rested the 7TH DAY?
I believe the land had Jubile and also another Jubile for the people.
2 types.
pls download & see my timeline which included Land rested too.
7th Day Weekend Rest(6000yrMan 1000yrChrist)
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The Acceptable year which Christ mentioned in HIS Ministry could be in 40AD and 2DAYs later,
which means 2000x360days/year = 1971x365.2468days/year +around 100 days ends 2011AD
I have studied and applied Michael Rood's Daniel 3Layer 70 weeks Prophecy. (although I believe Christ was really Crucified in midst of the 7years)
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Check out the Visions and Dreams Section! I just posted! Happy Rapture!
DJ,
I have read two of Mr. Martin's books (Secrets of Golgotha and The Temples that Jerusalem forgot) in their entirety. Both of which are controversial books to say the least. Having read those two books I do not feel a need to read any other thing that man has written. I will not touch any of his works again. The Ask ELM website states specifically that Dr. Martin does believe in Universal Reconciliation as do those who head the website.
Since the Holy Scriptures dogmatically teach the Universal Reconciliation of all humans throughout all periods of human history,He was an ardent advocate of this Scriptural truth. He hoped that all people on earth can experience their freedoms that they all have in Christ. All his writings attest to THIS fundamental truth that motivated his academic and religious endeavors and activities.
Dr. Martin taught that Jesus was diseased. By taking a few scriptures in the old testament completely out of context. He taught that Jesus was nailed to a tree. So I disagree completely with his interpretation on this as well.
He basically tries to find scientific answers to supernatural events which precludes taking the bible literally or the supernatural miracles of God such as the Red Sea crossing. Martin's teachings scream cultism to me. He even holds to the Seventh Day Adventist teaching of Soul Sleep. You can read whatever you want, but Dr. Martin is far, far from the Mainstream teachings of Christianity.
Many Christians today believe the Immortality of the Soul is a proper doctrine and they criticize those who feel that the dead are unconscious. They call them believers in "soul sleep." But what is wrong with saying the dead are asleep? Christ and the apostles did! I feel that the better authorities to tell us the truth of such matters are Christ and the apostles (who said the dead are asleep) than people who denigrate the plain statements of scripture (Ecclesiastes 9:5).
The bible is clear that those who are absent from the body are present with the Lord. (2 Corinthians 5:8) Jesus told the thief on the cross he would be in paradise that very day. (Luke 23:39-43)
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Conditions of the world at present show me we can not possibly go on like this for another ten years .....
the world is already in pre-trib. condition ...it looks like tribulation anyday now .....extending this time seems impossible to me ....
WW3 is starting up now ....just days away with China-Korea situation brewing
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